What teachers make..................
09-20-2011, 07:59 PM
#73
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While I strongly applaud the job and the difference teachers make it has become a bone of contention here in WI. The issue isn't what they do- though it should be- the theory is teachers should be calling the shots and are not answerable to parents is greatly distorted. The fact that 1 out of every 8 children in our county alone live in object poverty doesn't seem to matter as their union demands for fringe benefits provided by tax hikes on those same families are more important than a hungry child. When people can't feed their kids and programs are being cut from our children's education supposedly due to lack of funds- how dare anyone scream you owe me. When people all across the country of all skill and education levels have lost their jobs and homes how dare they stomp their foot sneering- I am a teacher with a degree how dare you question my motives. In their early years both my parents were teachers and were offered money under the table because the school system wanted them- they refused- now it's not under the table it's done through extortion of unions- Do I begrudge teachers making a fair salary to compensate for their work and take care of their families- not anymore then I do anyone else who is working.
09-20-2011, 09:12 PM
#74
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Location: A Yorkshire Brit living in Southern Sweden
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Too true, Froggy!
We've just had a uni student and 8 of his friends to camp in our garden ... I first met this lad at 8/9 years old in the first class I taught and he was lovely, bright, articulate, but with the most appalling handwriting and organisation of his written work on the page.
I did quite a bit of work with him and made some 'breakthroughs' and he passed on and then, a few years later, turned up at Scouts! He joined my District Scout Hiking Group and then, of course, he passed on ...
Thanks to Facebook he found me again and we chatted, and our little family dropped in for a cup of tea when travelling across England to visit relatives. I extended the open invitation to come and camp and 'bring a few friends' (not really expecting 9 teenagers!) and he pulled it all together and - in Scouting speak - organised a very nice little camp.
One of the things he told me while he was over here was that, at University, ten years after I taught him, he had been diagnosed with Dysgraphia ....
I had to tell him I was thrilled! Not of him, obviously, porr soul to have an additional challenge in life ... but for me ... ten years earlier I had identified the problem and worked with him on strategues etc. and now - not only was he at Uni and doing well - but he has also had a formal recognition of his difficulties. I might not have had the terminology in 2000 but I did recognise the difficulties!
GREAT! To have a glimpse, two glmpses in that boy's case (Scouts and Social) at what a child can become once they have left your classroom for the great unknown.
Helen
We've just had a uni student and 8 of his friends to camp in our garden ... I first met this lad at 8/9 years old in the first class I taught and he was lovely, bright, articulate, but with the most appalling handwriting and organisation of his written work on the page.
I did quite a bit of work with him and made some 'breakthroughs' and he passed on and then, a few years later, turned up at Scouts! He joined my District Scout Hiking Group and then, of course, he passed on ...
Thanks to Facebook he found me again and we chatted, and our little family dropped in for a cup of tea when travelling across England to visit relatives. I extended the open invitation to come and camp and 'bring a few friends' (not really expecting 9 teenagers!) and he pulled it all together and - in Scouting speak - organised a very nice little camp.
One of the things he told me while he was over here was that, at University, ten years after I taught him, he had been diagnosed with Dysgraphia ....
I had to tell him I was thrilled! Not of him, obviously, porr soul to have an additional challenge in life ... but for me ... ten years earlier I had identified the problem and worked with him on strategues etc. and now - not only was he at Uni and doing well - but he has also had a formal recognition of his difficulties. I might not have had the terminology in 2000 but I did recognise the difficulties!
GREAT! To have a glimpse, two glmpses in that boy's case (Scouts and Social) at what a child can become once they have left your classroom for the great unknown.
Helen
09-21-2011, 04:45 AM
#77
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NW Chicago Suburb
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My daughter will graduate next year with a bachelors degree in Special Ed and Elementary Ed and she knows she's not in it for the money. She loves children and the energy they have. Just seeing the "light go on" when a child starts to understand is indescribable. The impact a good teacher can have on a child is greater than any CEO can have.
09-21-2011, 05:40 AM
#78
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Location: northern ontario
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awesome...i did a lot of my 33 years teaching in grade one....i agree that it is very tough, but isn
Originally Posted by Gerbie
Another retired teacher - You said it Jodie. I have seen this before and really become agitated when people downgrade teachers and so many say it isn't a profession. WRONG it is a profession and without teachers most of the other "successful" people in business or life wouldn't be where they are now without their teachers!!!! We did and have made a difference in every child's life that came through our class. People do not learn through osmosis, they must be taught - to walk, talk, listen and learn!!!
I always took the time very consuming though it were to grade every paper I gave my students. I always felt that if I expected them to complete the work given, they definitely deserved my time to check their work. Over the years I saw toooo many teachers give work to their students, only to throw most of the papers in file 13, because they were toooo lazy to grade or even look at the work.
I taught in several areas, resource, math and reading, 5th grade regular classroom, and finally 1st grade which I considered the toughest of all, but spent my last 21 years of teaching as a first grade teacher. After I retired in 2004, I taught for 5 years as a tutorial math teacher in 4th & 5th grade.
I always took the time very consuming though it were to grade every paper I gave my students. I always felt that if I expected them to complete the work given, they definitely deserved my time to check their work. Over the years I saw toooo many teachers give work to their students, only to throw most of the papers in file 13, because they were toooo lazy to grade or even look at the work.
I taught in several areas, resource, math and reading, 5th grade regular classroom, and finally 1st grade which I considered the toughest of all, but spent my last 21 years of teaching as a first grade teacher. After I retired in 2004, I taught for 5 years as a tutorial math teacher in 4th & 5th grade.
09-21-2011, 05:40 AM
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awesome...i did a lot of my 33 years teaching in grade one....i agree that it is very tough, but isn
Originally Posted by Gerbie
Another retired teacher - You said it Jodie. I have seen this before and really become agitated when people downgrade teachers and so many say it isn't a profession. WRONG it is a profession and without teachers most of the other "successful" people in business or life wouldn't be where they are now without their teachers!!!! We did and have made a difference in every child's life that came through our class. People do not learn through osmosis, they must be taught - to walk, talk, listen and learn!!!
I always took the time very consuming though it were to grade every paper I gave my students. I always felt that if I expected them to complete the work given, they definitely deserved my time to check their work. Over the years I saw toooo many teachers give work to their students, only to throw most of the papers in file 13, because they were toooo lazy to grade or even look at the work.
I taught in several areas, resource, math and reading, 5th grade regular classroom, and finally 1st grade which I considered the toughest of all, but spent my last 21 years of teaching as a first grade teacher. After I retired in 2004, I taught for 5 years as a tutorial math teacher in 4th & 5th grade.
I always took the time very consuming though it were to grade every paper I gave my students. I always felt that if I expected them to complete the work given, they definitely deserved my time to check their work. Over the years I saw toooo many teachers give work to their students, only to throw most of the papers in file 13, because they were toooo lazy to grade or even look at the work.
I taught in several areas, resource, math and reading, 5th grade regular classroom, and finally 1st grade which I considered the toughest of all, but spent my last 21 years of teaching as a first grade teacher. After I retired in 2004, I taught for 5 years as a tutorial math teacher in 4th & 5th grade.
09-21-2011, 05:40 AM
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awesome...i did a lot of my 33 years teaching in grade one....i agree that it is very tough, but isn`t it the most rewarding....so much progress from the beg of the year to the end....it was always my favorite year to teach!!!!
Originally Posted by Gerbie
Another retired teacher - You said it Jodie. I have seen this before and really become agitated when people downgrade teachers and so many say it isn't a profession. WRONG it is a profession and without teachers most of the other "successful" people in business or life wouldn't be where they are now without their teachers!!!! We did and have made a difference in every child's life that came through our class. People do not learn through osmosis, they must be taught - to walk, talk, listen and learn!!!
I always took the time very consuming though it were to grade every paper I gave my students. I always felt that if I expected them to complete the work given, they definitely deserved my time to check their work. Over the years I saw toooo many teachers give work to their students, only to throw most of the papers in file 13, because they were toooo lazy to grade or even look at the work.
I taught in several areas, resource, math and reading, 5th grade regular classroom, and finally 1st grade which I considered the toughest of all, but spent my last 21 years of teaching as a first grade teacher. After I retired in 2004, I taught for 5 years as a tutorial math teacher in 4th & 5th grade.
I always took the time very consuming though it were to grade every paper I gave my students. I always felt that if I expected them to complete the work given, they definitely deserved my time to check their work. Over the years I saw toooo many teachers give work to their students, only to throw most of the papers in file 13, because they were toooo lazy to grade or even look at the work.
I taught in several areas, resource, math and reading, 5th grade regular classroom, and finally 1st grade which I considered the toughest of all, but spent my last 21 years of teaching as a first grade teacher. After I retired in 2004, I taught for 5 years as a tutorial math teacher in 4th & 5th grade.
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